Summary: I wanted a clear crispy crash sound but this one was literally very thick and gave me more like a ride sound. It may be perfect for other people but was not for me. At least this cymbal should be very sturdy.
Summary: if you are in the market for new cymbals and don't have a million bucks to spend or are new to drumming i would recomend these. zildjian has been around forever and have a name that demands high quality equipment. great price for a good product. i would recomend this to any of my friends.