Summary: Refurbished cameras are a joke, avoid at all cost, they are not refurbished! They are never sent back to the factory, they are taken off the sales floor and they attach a 90 day factory warranty tag on it. Mine was abused on the sales floor. Broken parts. Come On! I wrote the vendor, and got lip service. Buy new at all cost. My advice. other than that the L19 is a great camera. Point and shoot. Only draw back is that there is not a view finder.