Summary: At the EBay price, this was a great deal. Not intuitive, but after examining the camcorder thoroughly, most features seem to work just fine. Sound and picture seem fine. Convenient size camera.
Summary: I bought this camera in 1996. Since then, I used just a little, because it's simply not reliable. In fact, I prefer to make small records using my digital photo cameras on the record mode, since it's much more reliable. Almost 50% of the discs I tried to record simply don't finalize. I will never buy any DVD-based camera anymore.
Summary: I personally did not care for the DC164. It is in fact too little. If you have man size hands, the controls are difficult to find. The "joystick" which is smaller than a paper match head, was hard also hard to control. Making it almost impossible to access sub-menus, unless seated and holding camera on ones lap, perfectly still. Not much good for "on the fly adjustments", huh?