Conclusion: I bought 3 of this sub from a shop near me like a year ago. I wish i bought them from sonic cuz they are half the price LOL but it was totally worth what i paid. i dont take it easy on my system and these subs hang like nothing ive seen before. whats crazy is how myuch they move i honestly think it moves more than my frends W6 and for like a fraction of the price. badass.