Comments on: Why Windows Mobile Rules – iPhone vs Windows Mobile Part 2

By: Harley

Harley — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:39:56 +0000

Maybe I’m not the typical iPhone user, and I completely understand where all this “better” talk comes from, but I don’t really care what everyone else uses. I just like my iPhone better than any other phone I’ve tried or had. I’m not trying to be smug or holier than thou about it like some of the other iPhones users. I’m not dumb like some would claim above, I can do all the little tricks the tech nerds can do (I’m a tech nerd too).

I just love my iPhone and won’t feel guilty about it. I am happy with what it does. It’s not that I can’t understand how to customize the other phones, or get apps, or whatever you claim I can’t do. It’s simple, though: your phone is not better than my iPhone because I love my iPhone. And vice versa, my iPhone is not better than your WM phone because you love WM phones.

What I love is that I’m so happy with the iPhone that as a consumer I’m satisfied. And you love your WM that you’re satisfied. And that’s because the two compete, and compete with others, so they get better all the time. But don’t call me dumb, or say I don’t understand, or don’t know how to do things, I completely do. I just love the iPhone.

Oh, and don’t text while driving.

By: John

John — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:33:31 +0000

A couple of points I should clarify. I have a friend who now upgraded to the 3GS. He does have Bluetooth, Rhapsody now has an app that works with iPhone for streaming (but only streaming) and the big iPhone is 32GB. He is able to access his also large song library through an app that lets him connect to his home computer, and it works well — as long as he’s in a 3G coverage area. However, still no multi-tasking, my camera blows his away (though he can do video editing — I can shoot video, but I haven’t found an app for editing. . .), no cut-and-paste, no extensibility, no easily changed battery (“it takes more room” is a LAME excuse), and NO insurance plan through AT&T or Apple. . . Yes, you CAN change a broken screen on your iPhone, but you’re probably gonna have to buy lunch for a techno-geek like me to get it done. . . My screen looks crisper, however, the capacitive screen is something I hope they add to the next gen of Windows Mobile phones.

By: George

George — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:22:04 +0000

John and ken are absolutely right about this.
as ken said ..don’t waste your time preaching them that WinMo is better……than the best!

By: John

John — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:56:43 +0000

Ken is right. iPhones are for people too dumb or too lazy to learn how to use their phone. Just like Apple computers are for people who don’t want to learn how to use 2 mouse buttons instead of one or how to use a screwdriver or how to read a HijackThis file. But I like my command prompts. I know what a kernal is and how to tweak it. I like extending the life and power of a computer with $50 and a screwdriver. And I don’t want to be stuck with something designed for someone lazy or stupid.

iPhone charges you for EVERYTHING. And forces you to license EVERYTHING. The old Mac commercial is ironic to me because if ever there was a computer company with a Big Brother complex — it’s Apple.

Instead of 99 cent songs, I like my 3 million song library for $70 per year (Rhapsody). I like the fact that most of the apps I download are FREE, and am willing to fight off viruses at my own peril — because I know how to fix them. I like tweaking every setting at every level and HATE any interface or application that doesn’t let me tweak everything to my heart’s content. I like endlessly EXPANDABLE storage through SD cards — my several thousand CD collection legally ripped at 192 kbps takes hundreds of GB to store and instead of deleting and retransferring several hundred CDs at a time for hours, I just plug in a different 32GB Micro-SD card — each with twice the total storage of the “big” iPhone. I like my bluetooth headset that is not only great for listening to music, it’s perfect for lengthy meetings. And while talking on the phone, I can surf the net for info, cut and paste stuff into Outlook and forward it without having to wait for the next meeting or dragging my laptop with me. And my VPN capabilities are phenomenal. Will my next phone be another Windows Mobile phone? I don’t know, because Google Droid looks like it will be able to do all of this too. But there’s no way in hell I will downgrade to an iPhone.

iPhone’s are fun and for most people they are functional enough. But saying that iPhone is better than Windows Mobile or Google Droid is as dumb as saying the Wii is better than XBOX 360 or Playstation 3. Funny how the arguments are the same defending iPhone and Wii. . .

By: Mike

Mike — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:29:15 +0000

The iPhone was designed as an entertainment device that happens to fill some business functions. Windows Mobile not only provides the same entertainment features it also provides a better platform for the business sector. For example Tasks. total lack of support on iPhone unless you buy a third party app and then it can event support reminders. And by the way calendar reminders, give me a break. No way to snooze. Apple totally missed the boat there.

By: Crazy G

Crazy G — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:12:27 +0000

This article is great, but can someone please put it in point form? coz I would like to see Iphone fanboy actually tries to counter each and every one of them with facts. In fact I don’t believe they have any ability to do so besides saying things like , ‘wait till the next iphone came out!’, or ‘Wait till the next software update!’, or ‘Who cares’, or ‘I didn’t use all those functions in school anyway’.

By: ken

ken — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:27:58 +0000

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Listen up!!!

I am a Fanboy of Apple product, but only limited to Macs. Honestly, Apple will continuously to appeal to the 90% Joes in the market as it had always does with all its product line, and it is fair and no surprise that 25 million people had chosen Iphone over other phones.

So when you talk to an Iphone fanboy, you’ll know that you are talking to an average joe, or a kid, so you’ll be wasting your time try to convince them that WinMo is better. I am a WinMo user, and I swear to GOD that it is way way superior but so very nonuser-friendly that normal people will cringe every time they use it,because they usually use them ‘Out the Box’. It takes a lot of technical know-how to completely clean-up the crap-ware on your WinMo and customize it to the way you like to use it.

All the points that this article had pointed out are the truth, and are irrefutable! WinMo is much more superior than Iphone, however….

Its simple why WinMo seems so superior but FAIL, because of 2 reasons:

1) WinMo is built ‘too complicated’ out-the-box for average user, it is so complicated that its meant for Pros only. It is a reduced version of a PC, so there u go, u can do lots of crazy stuff on it, but normal people just Dont care about its advances, and sometimes get upset by the complicated path that they have to go through to do a simple task. Which is sad by the way.

2) Iphone is built for average joe and even an idiot know how to use it. Which app u want to open? Just touch that. Want to quit from here? click that only button there! That’s why it outsold WM, because we have 90% Joes and only 10% Pros in this world.

So PEOPLE! Don’t waste your time preach to others that WinMo is Better, because they haven’t graduate to hear your lecture!

By: Zeus

Zeus — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:38:34 +0000

there are three very simple issues that iphone doesnt have:
1- you cannot find a browser that can compress webpages like opera mini, which is an absolute requirement for people leaving in countries with download/speed limitations
2- you cannot draw on iphone, for many people/especially engineers, this might be an important requirement when working on field
3- it is impossible to type on iphone using one hand and doing something else with the other hand. (sometimes I reply to SMS while driving or while eating, this is impossible with iphone)

By: Alan

Alan — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 00:54:31 +0000

3 years ago I bought Windows phone. It did everything and so much more. However I hated it for many reasons, and so a few months ago I bought the new iphone.
I was looking forward to it as I’d never owned an Apple product and the reputation seems to be they are easy and simple and easy in every way. I was in for a shock. Firstly I got it out of its box and it took 2.5 hours and fiddling with itunes and downloads to get it going!
I was also rather surprised at the proprietary Apple connector and the iphone lead itself. Thinking that Apple is all about quality I was surprised that the lead that comes with it rather than a cable more resembles a bleached pubic hair!

All up and running and a sigh of relief. I’m totally loving the new iphone. Everything the old phone wasn’t – so easy to use …. It’s actually pleasurable to operate! Everyting works and works so well. Very happy now!

A few months down the line and I have a few other discoveries. Firstly and unlike any other phone, you can not change the battery. This is preposterous! What on earth happens in 2-3 years when the battery needs replacing. Do I just chuck this very expensive device in the bin? Or do I have to send it to Apple and face the drudgery of Apple prices to overcharge me again?

OK, the next thing – battery charge is UTTERLY APPAULING! I am having to put it on charge every day, and I am a light user.

Next thing – Syncing. You have to use itunes – this is a joke! I banned itunes form my computer years ago when it first came out and I was testing it. It did so much damage to my music collection that it took me months to repair it. Anyway I’m having to use it again now and it seems to be all advertising and gimmicks that don’t really work or that you have to pay them even MORE money to use!
Worse than all this is that syncing is so feeble compared to Microsoft active sync which is what I used with my last phone. Why can’t Apple make the iphone work with proper software!
Syncing is randomly unreliable and is not real time so you have to do it manually if you want to update an entry you’ve just made.
Also the iphone calendar is the one thing on the phone that is clumsy and inefficient to use. Unfortunately it’s the thing I use all the time!

Next thing – phone reception. Worse that any other equivalent phone. I immediately contacted the provider (O2) about this and they said it’s a known thing with the iphone and that I have to turn 3G off. I did that but it hardly makes any difference. Also do they expect me to spend all that money on a 3g phone and have to turn it off!

Next thing – Crashing. The most used feature on my iphone is the system reset procedure to re boot the thing. I do this between 1 and 8 times per day.

Next thing – copy and paste are supposed to be one of the brilliant new features if the new iphone, but they only sometimes work. You have to be in the right type of screen.

So lots of gripes but I would still say I like it and that it’s a lovely phone to use. I just wish Apple would stop being so arrogant about thinking they are superior when clearly they have much work to do.

Conclusion
It’s a very gorgeous phone and I am proud of it. But it is nowhere near perfect; it is overpriced, underfeatured and has too many bugs.
But I could happily live with these – the real issue is that it is made by Apple and with it come all these problems.
I look forward to another manufacturer making a phone as slick and easy to use.

By: mike

mike — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:24:09 +0000

Yes, that’s the point. Windows Mobile is more complex but gives freedom. It can be customized and used in a simple way, while iphone is limited by default because apple knows better.

By: Nick

Nick — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:13:14 +0000

What ever the points, the only thing that occurs to me is: “would the public have bought the Iphone if it wasn’t made by apple? Why would the pay the money? They wouldn’t.

By: Bentor Tazenda

Bentor Tazenda — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:48:24 +0000

I can’t speak for Android as I haven’t seen one yet; but I disapprove of Apple’s iPhone and prefer the Microsoft Windows Mobile platform for a couple of simple reasons.

I don’t like being restricted, dictated to, or told what I can or can’t do with an instrument that I paid for.

Windows Mobile – I can choose to install any application written. I can get those applications from anywhere.

iPhone – I must go through the Apple store.

Windows Mobile – Microsoft doesn’t dictate what software I may or may not install.

iPhone – They are locked down to one wireless provider. You must use it. You cannot easily unlock the SIM restrictions. My secretary wanted to unlock her iPhone to use it on a foreign network while on a trip. AT&T said no they nor Apple will unlock the SIM on any iPhone for any reason. Even though you may have paid full price for it.

Windows Mobile – I want to use it on a different provider? Ok – enter the code. (T-mobile sent me the code unlock code with no trouble at all.)

Yeah iPhone may be slicker in many ways, but it limiting, you get a socialist paradise of control.

Windows Mobile – I get modified versions of the OS to suite my needs.

iPhone comes as they give it to you. Like it or else.

Windows Mobile – May be harder to use but it offers freedom of choice.

The philosophy of control of Apple’s iPhone is enough to put me off.

You don’t really own the iPhone we sold you, you just have the privilege of using it.

Your Windows Mobile phone is yours to do with as you wish, we are grateful you purchased it.

You must use our iTunes software to copy files on to our iPhone.

You may use a standard USB connection to copy files and programs to your Windows Mobile phone.

By: Alex

Alex — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:50:38 +0000

Dude, use your commas. That was painful to read.

By: jmaz

jmaz — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:44:46 +0000

First, WinMo demands more resources to function properly, and the more powerful processors coming out will bare this out. Second, it is a product with a history of development and design for implementations and use on multiple portable devices or embedded systems. The modern cell phone just happens to be one of these devices. So, you cannot expect it to behave like the stripped down phone interfaces coming out. The new trend is to make these interfaces dumb-proof and visually enjoyable for the average consumer. Apple and the Iphone are to be commended for this. Although, its interface is not really an OS, in the sense of the definition, because all it does is allow you to launch a small program from a list of icons and nothing else.It has influenced how consumers use cell phones, though. Android is much more sophisticated than the Iphone interface, but it is still a basic interface made to address the most popular functions of today’s cell phones easily. It allows you to do much more than the Iphone. This simplified implementation, no doub,t is where WinMo has faltered in a major way. Windows Mobile, though, is on a different league. It is a complete micro operating system. But manufacturers learned from Apple that you can grab from Open Source, make money from it and not worry about putting anything back, thus, the major appeal of Android. Plus, Android is starting to address the basic functions of today’s cell phones fairly efficiently.
Now, You are hearing a lot of horrible things about the Windows Mobile OS. After that, you might think that you’ll go blind or lose a limb if you so much as look or touch a work-centric cell phone with the Windows Mobile OS in it. It is hysteria out there. Heck, a couple of pseudo-technical (blogging sites such as gizmodo.com and engadget.com) have done a fantastic job of destroying its reputation. You are going to hear a gush of ‘verbal diarrhea’ from reviewers posing as knowledgeable technical people when in fact all they are, are cheerleaders for one camp or the other. It is kind of laughable because they don’t get any kind of stipend from the companies that they so fervently fight for. These types of reviewers don’t seem to understand two things-that you create something when you critique something and that objectivity is as obvious as bias. You are going to get a lot of idiotic comments from people that do not know what Windows Mobile is, but feel that it is their duty to trash it because it is trendy to trash anything Microsoft. I have to admit that one of my joy as a Windows Mobile user is seeing how these poor tortured souls actually create their own artificial reality in order to lie about something that they have never seen or tried. It is the internet age and the dissemination of misinformation rules. It is the internet age and the culture of the “Reality Distortion Field” is so much in vogue. So many, willing to drink the Kool-Aid. How interesting that the market responds to this, but a thing is what it is. Windows Mobile is more complex than what is coming out to the market. It is ready for more robust gadgets instead of the quasy-toys that we have at present. In other words it’s ready for the near future. “By the time WinMo 7 comes out, other interfaces will be so far ahead” goes one silly argument. But still, this Microsoft guy (Ballmer) is totally clueless as to how to respond or as to how to proceed.
You have the users who thinks that the Windows Mobile OS is no good because it does not allow them to shift visual gunk back and forward easily, and pretty-ly. You have those (most non-technical ,cheerleading bloggers) who think that fashion or eye candy is more important than function and have created a culture of “Newness is the New Novelty.” You have those that understand that it is a micro operating system not a mere phone interface. I can say this because I have used and worked with all of them.
I am going to make it simple for you: If you want to use your modern so called smart cell phone as a mini computer that mimics just about everything that you can do with your desktop, and that allows you to interface and sync efficiently (I mean efficiently like work/play) with such desktop, then don’t break your head looking for something other than Windows Mobile. You won’t find it. If you want to use your modern cell phone to get great joy with the shifting of visual elements around in order to mainly make phone calls, text, etc. and use your music, pictures, and videos then you have the other interfaces with easier finger usage. Why torture yourselves hating one or the other method of working with a modern cell phone. I mean, there are oranges and then there are apples, and then there are… And this hate thing is such a spiritual albatross. Besides, in spite of Ballmer, soon Windows Mobile will allow you to do the same thing. It will decouple its complexities into consumers (bloggers, average users) and knowledgeable users functions and services. So, you will have a gadgety-widgety-shifty visual interface for the general consumer and an OS centric interface for IT or more knowledgeable users. If you are a regular Joe-six-pack ,strike that, a regular user maybe Windows Mobile is not for you. If you are allergic to the philosophy of chaperoned or dictated computing or smart phone usage maybe Windows Mobile is for you. You will never know this if all you want is to find joy in talking gaga and not actually learning the difference. The world is not a monochromatic experience, you know. I am quite happy to be called a WinMo apologist.

By: Tim

Tim — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:00:30 +0000

Lol i would update this…
It can copy and paste and it can send bluetooth files, there is an app for mms,
There is also an app for radio and i dont see why you need the radio when ur music and news is on your iphone.
And also the 3gs supports vid recording and so does jailbroken iphones.